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Sunday, December 5th 2004, 4:39pm

Kjots questions ??

I posted a kjots question here over a year ago and received no response.

Thats fine.

Is there a forum or special site that I should be going to in order to ask questions and get help with kjots?

Google has been no help.
Bill
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Monday, December 6th 2004, 1:36am

Perhaps you would like to ask again? Unfortunately, there's only so much questions that the people here can help with, and they don't necessarily know the answer to everything (although they do know the answer to ALMOST everything).
"Chopsticks require a person to use 64 muscles and 30 articulate movements simultaneously, which also acts in developing brain potential."

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Monday, December 6th 2004, 2:19am

kjots shared files/data??

I really like using Kjots. It fits exactly the way I work. That is, I use it all the time to make notes and reminders etc. to myslelf. Except:

I have myself setup as two different users. User1 is for my normal play, learn and browse sessions. User2 is set up as a clean, sparse space where I work on paying projects (I am semi-retired). Pardon the irrelevant explanation but I have had so many people ask me why I would even want the following.

I want to set up Kjots so that I can access the same data/notes that I make to myself whether I am logged in as user1 or user2. Since I am using user1 and user2 interchangeabley, to protect my security I treat them as one.

Somewhere I have to give the run kjots command addresses to the appropriate directory which is currently defaulted to $HOME/.kde/share/apps/kjots? One location in /home for both users would be ideal. How do I setup that up or anything else that works? And, how do I reconfigure kjots to accept a new 'books' address?

At present, if I set up links in one user directory to the other user's .kde directory, all kjots does is remove the link and replace it with a new kjots directory.

Kennith thanks for suggesting I resubmit this question. It seems like a reasonable question to me,

Sincerely Bill
Bill
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Tuesday, December 14th 2004, 3:14am

Re: kjots shared files/data??

Quoted

Original von Bill Case

I really like using Kjots. It fits exactly the way I work. That is, I use it all the time to make notes and reminders etc. to myslelf. Except:

I have myself setup as two different users. User1 is for my normal play, learn and browse sessions. User2 is set up as a clean, sparse space where I work on paying projects (I am semi-retired). Pardon the irrelevant explanation but I have had so many people ask me why I would even want the following.

I want to set up Kjots so that I can access the same data/notes that I make to myself whether I am logged in as user1 or user2. Since I am using user1 and user2 interchangeabley, to protect my security I treat them as one.

Somewhere I have to give the run kjots command addresses to the appropriate directory which is currently defaulted to $HOME/.kde/share/apps/kjots? One location in /home for both users would be ideal. How do I setup that up or anything else that works? And, how do I reconfigure kjots to accept a new 'books' address?

At present, if I set up links in one user directory to the other user's .kde directory, all kjots does is remove the link and replace it with a new kjots directory.

Kennith thanks for suggesting I resubmit this question. It seems like a reasonable question to me,

Sincerely Bill


After a year, finally an answer! but maybe not much help. then again just maybe it will work.

Why don't you set up a kjots start link for user 1 (or 2) on the desktop then set the permissions to 'run as a different user' so that you are always running kjots as user 1. It will probably mean whenever you start kjots as a different user you will have to enter the other user's password though.

Since you are the only kjots user I have encountered, I have to ask...what is it that you like? Not meaning to be flippant, I have tried it & don't find it much advantage over a simple text editor like kedit or kwrite, except that it will separate notes into pages & books. The downside of this is that the file format is not just simple text.

I do use knotes a lot. It is especially useful for making quick notes from something found while browsing, for example if there was something in this post worthy of note just highlght, copy then rt click knotes & 'create note from clipboard'. Rename to someting meaningful instead of the date & you have an instantly accessible collection of notes. The big downside is that it's in an odd file format & there is no available option to output to a text file. Now if you could output from knotes into kjots to consolidate your notes (with each note becoming a page) THAT would be useful!

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Tuesday, December 14th 2004, 3:40am

Thanks for replying 'crashed again', I like your sobriquet;

I use kjots for the same reason you talked about using notes. But kjots is organized into pages and books. I like the look and feel, fonts etc. -- but I suppose I could have the same fonts anywhere.

I guess it gives away my age but I still think in terms of scrippling notes on waste paper. Anything very much more complex gets in the way of what I am thinking about or trying to solve.

I sort through my notes and scribbles; save some; throw some away -- usually the wrong ones. Every other pager or note program I've used feels like I am doing something significant and therefore saveable. Kjots feels -- to me -- like scraps of paper.

That's why -- not much of an explanation

Regards Bill
Bill
FC3

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Wednesday, December 15th 2004, 4:33am

Quoted

Original von Bill Case


I guess it gives away my age....


Just to give away MY age, my first experience with computers was stealing time on a university mainframe back when all computers were mainframes & programs were in 'time shared basic' on paper punch tape.

Perhaps I will give kjots another try. The thing I like about knotes is that you don't lose the focus on whatever you are taking notes about...just highlight, two clicks & a rename. even the rename can wait til later. Like using a text editor, kjots requires highlight, copy, start kjots, select a new page (or add to an existing one either way you have to find the right spot to paste), then paste, then return to your original read. By then you've lost focus.

BTW, did the suggestion work? I couldn't try it, I don't have two users.

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Wednesday, December 15th 2004, 4:06pm

Thanks Crashed Again.

Quoted

BTW, did the suggestion work? I couldn't try it, I don't have two users.


It works -- kinda. Tried a su user1 while in user2 from terminal and got the following error message:

"$ kjots
Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
kbuildsycoca running...
Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
$"

then kjots for user1 popped up and ran successfully.

I think the answer is in establishing a link in from /home/user2/.kde/apps/share/kjots(link) to user1 directory but all the permissions have to be right or kjots defaults to recreating its own directory. Perhaps if I create a new group 'kjots' that has user1 and user2 as the only members. I think kjots is looking for another file that has to be linked as well but I don't know what that file would be?

Regards Bill
Bill
FC3

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Tuesday, November 3rd 2009, 5:44pm

RE: kjots shared files/data??

I have modified the newest version source code of Kjots and now you can define the location of your notes as you want in a .txt file other than store them in the default location $HOME/.kde/share/apps/kjots

You can find the source code and the binary files here:
http://liuxianrenterry.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!5C780759565B7177!479.entry

Hope you like it.

liuxianren


I really like using Kjots. It fits exactly the way I work. That is, I use it all the time to make notes and reminders etc. to myslelf. Except:

I have myself setup as two different users. User1 is for my normal play, learn and browse sessions. User2 is set up as a clean, sparse space where I work on paying projects (I am semi-retired). Pardon the irrelevant explanation but I have had so many people ask me why I would even want the following.

I want to set up Kjots so that I can access the same data/notes that I make to myself whether I am logged in as user1 or user2. Since I am using user1 and user2 interchangeabley, to protect my security I treat them as one.

Somewhere I have to give the run kjots command addresses to the appropriate directory which is currently defaulted to $HOME/.kde/share/apps/kjots? One location in /home for both users would be ideal. How do I setup that up or anything else that works? And, how do I reconfigure kjots to accept a new 'books' address?

At present, if I set up links in one user directory to the other user's .kde directory, all kjots does is remove the link and replace it with a new kjots directory.

Kennith thanks for suggesting I resubmit this question. It seems like a reasonable question to me,

Sincerely Bill