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I use openoffice, with all fonts installed on my system, including ttf-fonts.
What incompatibility about fonts do you experience?

Rinse

Never used Koffice, but I know I like OOo. Needs a grammer check and a better spellchecker though. And PDA software. Documents To Go doesn't sync well when you don't have Word.

Well' I'm glad to see when koffice makes progress and I look forward to much more progress in stability, quality and compability. Hold the features, improve quality of existing application.

I'm using OpenOffice. I don't care about compatibilty with MS Office - to me OO just seems more... uhm.. professional.

I'm pretty happy with the OOWriter because it's easy to use and... well, it just works
The applications don't look very good but a very functional and (to me) that's most important.
But I think the presentation software still needs a friggin' lot of improvement -- Apples Keynote and even Powerpoint is a lot better.

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Original von heismark

Well' I'm glad to see when koffice makes progress and I look forward to much more progress in stability, quality and compability. Hold the features, improve quality of existing application.

Sorry, but we need new features. As long as there are huge holes in the feature list of KOffice, we cannot do otherwise.

Have a nice day!

I voted for OpenOffice.org, because I really need compatibility with MS Word.

How will the compatibility be between Koffice and MS Word 2003 with XML? Since it's an open standard, isn't it way easier to write good filters?

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Original von LB06

I voted for OpenOffice.org, because I really need compatibility with MS Word.

How will the compatibility be between Koffice and MS Word 2003 with XML? Since it's an open standard, isn't it way easier to write good filters?

Well, the following is XML, too:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1">
<big_ms_blob encoded_as="base64">
...
</big_ms_blob>

Does the fact that XML is an open standard help here? No, not at all.
If MS is telling people it would then it's marketing propaganda
in answer to demands for openess of document formats.
But you still don't know what the stuff means.

I don't expect the situation to be *that* ugly
but I wouldn't expect any miracles either.

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Original von LB06

I voted for OpenOffice.org, because I really need compatibility with MS Word.

How will the compatibility be between Koffice and MS Word 2003 with XML? Since it's an open standard, isn't it way easier to write good filters?

Someone competent will have to look at the licenses for using WordML, including the patent licence. Therefore it is still to see if and how WordML will be supported in KOffice.

Have a nice day!

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Original von cmbofh

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Original von LB06

I voted for OpenOffice.org, because I really need compatibility with MS Word.

How will the compatibility be between Koffice and MS Word 2003 with XML? Since it's an open standard, isn't it way easier to write good filters?

Well, the following is XML, too:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1">
<big_ms_blob encoded_as="base64">
...
</big_ms_blob>

Does the fact that XML is an open standard help here? No, not at all.
If MS is telling people it would then it's marketing propaganda
in answer to demands for openess of document formats.
But you still don't know what the stuff means.

I don't expect the situation to be *that* ugly
but I wouldn't expect any miracles either.

The WordML format in itself is not so bad. It is something between RTF and HTML.

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Original von Nicolas Goutte


The WordML format in itself is not so bad. It is something between RTF and HTML.

I don't claim to know even the first thing about the real new MS format.

I've just become allergic against the hyped term XML that's sold as a panacea. That's mainly due to my experiences with those business types in middle management... ;-)

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Original von cmbofh

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Original von Nicolas Goutte


The WordML format in itself is not so bad. It is something between RTF and HTML.

I don't claim to know even the first thing about the real new MS format.

I've just become allergic against the hyped term XML that's sold as a panacea. That's mainly due to my experiences with those business types in middle management... ;-)

Yes, I understand. That is why on kde-forum.de I had made the comparaison of XML with a sea container. You can easily handle it, as it has standard sizes but what is transported inside differs greatly. Nevertheless it is advantages compared to previous systems.

Have a nice day!

I've recently come to Linux after a long time with Windows. I hate. loathe and detest MS Word and have for a long time used Corel Word Perfect. A lot of my files are thus wpd files. OpenOffice is a great package but cannot read wpd files. KWord can and scores highly for me because of this. In practive I will use both OO and KWord. OO will read any MS Word files I have but I will use OO mostly for creating new files.

Donald

I prefer OpenOffice, because it' more featured (in my opinion) and also, because i can use it on windows to

The MS Compatibility meantioned here quite often is not the most important feature for me. Therefore Koffice could be a choice if this was the only important point.
But I only need a spread sheet programm for statistical analysis and plotting. Excel is not the most perfect program for this, OO is not better, but Koffice does not need to be meantioned at all in this case.
(A programm that would be perfect is Origin under win, the only comparable project und linux is scigraphica which seems to crash on every distri on startup if one looks on the bug page)
The capability of Wordprocessing is not so interesting for me because I use Latex only.

What is missing from the point of company use is a scripting language like MS has VBA and OO/SO Starbasic. I have worked with VBA very often in the past and know of companys that have programmed complete applications with VBA.

One thing one should always keep in mind in a discussion like this - the KDE Office developers claim their project a 'design study'. IMHO is the most important statement about Koffice.

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Original von pospiech


One thing one should always keep in mind in a discussion like this - the KDE Office developers claim their project a 'design study'. IMHO is the most important statement about Koffice.

Who? Where?

This is far to long ago to remember. But I assume that I have either read it in an interview posted on osnews.org or on the websites itsself.

Matthias Pospiech

Well, in any case, KOffice is not a "design study". However, sure, there is still plenty to do. (MS Word and StarOffice/OpenOffice have years of advance.)