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stu

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Friday, January 2nd 2004, 5:46am

KDE problem?

Hi,

How can I recover from a system lockup?

According to the KDE Help center:
1. From the locked up screen: CTRL + Alt + Esc (to bring up a login screen)
2. ps -aux | more (to list running processes)
3. kill -9 pid
4. CTRL + ALt F7 (to switch back to the locked up desktop to see if it has been fixed)

Although the instructions mention several likely programs to try "killing" I have yet to successfully recover...

I have:
* Suse 9 with YOU updates (whatever these are)
* Athlon 600 with .5Gb RAM
* A monitor that can do 30-70Hz (and a 32Mb riva tnt 2 graphics card)

There are several games that come with the Suse distribution that cause an out of frequency problem (video mode tried to set at 28Kz ie. out of range)

In particular Maelstrom cause this problem 100% of the time. I cannot recover from the garbled display.
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My second question is that I am finding Linux pretty unstable (though Windows 2000 and XP was pretty solid running on the same hardware). Some applications that ship with Suse seem to crash on a regular basis (a minority granted and mostly 3d games I think) sometimes taking the machine down with them. Is this to be expected? Everyone says how stable Linux is, but my impressions so far are that while showing potential it doesn't quite work (certainly not in the league of Win XP and 2000 which simply work straight out of the box in my experience).

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Also Linux is MUCH slower than Win XP eg. opening Open Office, or even just opening a browser window. This despite an update optimised for the Athlon (I have tried Mandrake 9.2 and Red Hat as well and they are similarly slow).

Is this the exerience of others?javascript:emoticon(':roll:')
Cheers
Stuart


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Friday, January 2nd 2004, 7:57am

Hi stu,

I can't see this being a Games problem but it sounds more like a graphics configuration problem. I Use Suse 9 and I run lots of 3D games! Actully I run any application I want without any problems.
I suggest you first to check your graphics configuration by getting into run level 3 and starting up sax2.
YOU updates is basically the same a your microsoft update, although I am not sure what the MS one looks like now day as I have not touched MS for 3 years now. :wink:

I recommend you running sax2 again once you updated your system as it will over write your 3D settings.

Also I recommend you downloading the appropriate drivers for your tnt2 card as Suse comes only with a dummy driver that allows you to use it but does not really work with 3D apps.

I also will move this message to the appropriate section of the forum hoping you will get more help if you require. :D
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Friday, January 2nd 2004, 11:26am

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Thanks tuxnet,

Is there an easy way to resubmit to the graphics forum (including threads so far)?

The graphics config does appear to be the problem, but I am unable to fix it.

The specs for my monitor are Horiz freq: 30-70 and Vert freq: 50-110

My monitor is not listed so I have chosen Vesa 1024x768 @ 60Hz (the resolution that I like to work at and what my monitor is capable of)

But... in Sax2 the Horiz freq displays at 28-70 rather than 30-70. I think that's my problem (because this is also the resolution that some 3D games try to use for reasons best known to themselves).

Changing it makes no difference. When I "finalize" and eventually log out (so I can start a new KDE session reflecting the monitor frequency changes) the frequency still appears at 28 when I go back in to Sax2 to check.

:cry:

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Friday, January 2nd 2004, 1:27pm

Have you thought in manually changing the settings in the /etc/X11/XF86Config file? I recommedn you making a copy of it and then make try the necessary changes.

Also have you installed proprietry Hardware drivers for your Card?
P.S. I moved the message as you requested to the Graphics section! :wink:
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Friday, January 2nd 2004, 9:57pm

How do I change file permissions so that I can edit this file?

Is it usig a command called chmod?

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Friday, January 2nd 2004, 11:09pm

Re: Proprietary nvidia driver

When I installed Suse I selected my graphics card from the list. I am pretty sure it downloaded THE Nvidia driver (becuase i had to accept a license agreement I think).

Can I double check without reinstalling? (The installation procedure looks complicated to me http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-5328)

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Saturday, January 3rd 2004, 8:03am

dont change the permissions of the file, it becomes a security risk if you forget about changing it back. rather, just log in as root temporarily and edit it.

And, yes, chmod is the command to change permissions :P
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Sunday, January 4th 2004, 8:40am

OK, thanks guys problem seems solved.

After someone told me I needed to login as root (or similar) to change the config file (I was unable to save changes until someone pointed this out).

Maelstrom runs fine now.