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SexyBitch

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Monday, February 10th 2003, 5:53pm

How to install KDE 3.1 on Redhat 8

Hello Everyone. I have heard of some horror stories about installing KDE 3.1 on Redhat 8. I did a full install of RH8, so I am already running KDE. Does anyone know the exact steps to install it on a full install of Redhat8? Or maybe the easiest way? I've never updated a package this large, so I don't want to screw up my OS. Thanks.

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Wednesday, February 12th 2003, 6:51pm

Re: How to install KDE 3.1 on Redhat 8

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Hello Everyone. I have heard of some horror stories about installing KDE 3.1 on Redhat 8. I did a full install of RH8, so I am already running KDE. Does anyone know the exact steps to install it on a full install of Redhat8? Or maybe the easiest way? I've never updated a package this large, so I don't want to screw up my OS. Thanks.


your options include:

o waiting for RH8.1 when the 3.1 packages will be included for you
o installing a different mainstream distribution that actually provides you with what you want (e.g. SuSe or Mandrake)
o grabbing the unnoficial contributed rpms from ftp://apt.unl.edu/apt/8.0/RPMS/ and doing an rpm -Uvh on them (though you'll probably want/need to remove the Red Hat provided KDE packages first)
o using apt-get and following the instructions at http://kde-redhat.sourceforge.net/

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Wednesday, February 12th 2003, 7:12pm

o waiting for RH8.1 when the 3.1 packages will be included for you

- I heard RH is offering them on the 15th of Feb

o installing a different mainstream distribution that actually provides you with what you want (e.g. SuSe or Mandrake)

- Mandrake offers RPMs?

o grabbing the unnoficial contributed rpms from ftp://apt.unl.edu/apt/8.0/RPMS/ and doing an rpm -Uvh on them (though you'll probably want/need to remove the Red Hat provided KDE packages first)

- Horror stories

o using apt-get and following the instructions at http://kde-redhat.sourceforge.net/

- Horror stories, they only offer a test version that I hear is unstable, can you believe stable beingan issue on Linux?!?

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Wednesday, February 12th 2003, 8:32pm

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Horror stories, they only offer a test version

Hi it's in the unstable branch, but it's a normal KDE 3.1
Debian has a different meaning of stable and unstable. (By the way: KDE 2.2.2 ist stable if you use apt-get) So don't be afraid.

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Saturday, February 15th 2003, 9:11am

problem installing kde 3.1 with apt

I added the following to sources.lst:
rpm ftp://apt.unl.edu/apt/ 8.0 kde3-test
and then I did an apt.get update and an apt-get install kde3, but this doesn't work and I get:
Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
kde3: Depends: kghostview (>= 3.1)
E: Sorry, broken packages
What can I do?
Sorry, I'm quite new to linux :oops:

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Monday, February 17th 2003, 1:47pm

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o waiting for RH8.1 when the 3.1 packages will be included for you

thanks.. thats wicked help

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o installing a different mainstream distribution that actually provides you with what you want (e.g. SuSe or Mandrake)

so is that too.. the question was how to get kde3.1 on redhat 8, not what other linux distro to install.. i was hoping to get similar information, but apparently the people here don't care to actually help.

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Thursday, February 20th 2003, 6:21pm

So, Is anyone here running KDE 3.1 on Redhat?

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Thursday, February 20th 2003, 6:33pm

Does anyone know where to find distro specific RPMs for KDE 3.1 [primarily RedHat8]? I'd really like to get it working. I'm the kind of person that needs the bleeding edge hardware and software installed in my systems. Plus, the screen shots look great. I love eye candy. Does anyone know when Redhat is going to release RPMs? I heard it was the 15th, but that was last week...

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Sunday, February 23rd 2003, 5:46pm

I've been looking at the redhat site and there's nothing! I hope they release something soon.

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Sunday, March 2nd 2003, 6:03pm

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Does anyone know where to find distro specific RPMs for KDE 3.1 [primarily RedHat8]? I'd really like to get it working. I'm the kind of person that needs the bleeding edge hardware and software installed in my systems. Plus, the screen shots look great. I love eye candy. Does anyone know when Redhat is going to release RPMs? I heard it was the 15th, but that was last week...


You can get RH8 rpms for kde3.1 here:
ftp://apt.unl.edu/apt/8.0/RPMS.kde3-test/

They install and work fine but you will loose the ability to run some of your other kde applications (ones that require kde 3.)
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Wednesday, March 5th 2003, 11:18am

I built from the source using Konstructor and under 'everything'. Took :shock: long.

:shock: long.

:D

Anyway... was quite a mission... relative to apt which I tried as well. That was easy. Didn't include all the KDE apps though. How do I get those included with apt? ... Like with the 'everything' build Possible?

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Tuesday, March 25th 2003, 4:44am

error

i tried intalling the kde 3.1 rpms and i got this error:

could not open package

the file could not be read. make sure that you have proper permissions on it

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Thursday, March 27th 2003, 9:55am

kde 3.1.1 rh8

Redhat has released rpm's with kde 3.1.1 for rh8. Installing is easy (rpm -Uvh). But they seem to hacked (imo krippled)some kde code:
-I can't find the keybindings (like destop switching, log off, etc. ) in kcontrol. Is this a 3.1 thing?
-Can't view file type groups in konquerer
-Choosing configure panel after rightclicking on the panel also doesn't work.
-Sometimes a kdeinit process goes to 80 to 100 % cpu usage
-You can't adjust the format of the clock 24/pm
-Can't modify number of virtual desktops.

Has anybody any similar experiences? And should I use the version from sourceforge to solve this?

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Thursday, March 27th 2003, 12:40pm

I have exactly the same problem. I used the RPM:s which are distributed here at kde.org

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Monday, March 31st 2003, 10:44pm

Looks like the guys from RH (or KDE.org? whoever created the RPMS...) screwed some things up. I had to reinstall RH8 today (HD-crash), and first thing I did was to download the RPMS from kde.org and installing them.
Still I'm experiencing the same problems.

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Tuesday, April 1st 2003, 12:05am

Yup.
I've upgraded using the provided kde3.1.1 rpms... KDE seems to work 'ok' but it looks very red-hat-gnome-branded.

I renamed my .kde dir so that I'd get the default config - now I don't have any entries at all in my 'start' (red hat) menu.

As instructed by
http://download.at.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.1.1/RedHat/8.0/README
I've installed redhat-menus-0.38-1.noarch.rpm - this appears to have had no effect.
I even tried creating a new 'test' user so he'd get a brand new kde configuration - same issue.
How do I get these default menus?

Cheers
Mole

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Sunday, April 13th 2003, 10:18pm

update

Reply to the former post.
You can get rid of bluecurve bij starting up kcontrol. Select "appearance and themes" ( the name is "look and feel" in the original kde 3.1.1 package but Redhat thought this was a more appropriate title) and take look at the "style" and "window decorations" entries. Select keramik in both cases. Go to icons to select crystal and you've pretty much got the standard kde look. You can also change the kde splash screen. Surf to www.kde-look.org for that.
On my former posts about the lacking menus in kde.
This was a bad case of rtfm :oops:. You have to install the package mentioned in the README (ftp://download.uk.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.1.1/RedHat/8.0/README) and kde gets all menus back. But some of them are given different names in Kcontrol. So i was a bit to harsch on rh.

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Monday, April 14th 2003, 12:59pm

I would advice adopting SUSE or Mandrake over RedHat. Unless you really need RedHat that is.

I'm using Gentoo. But it might give you a hard time and problems with installing news software.
deduction versus induction - knowledge versus information

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Monday, April 14th 2003, 7:13pm

Re: kde 3.1.1 rh8

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Redhat has released rpm's with kde 3.1.1 for rh8. Installing is easy (rpm -Uvh). But they seem to hacked (imo krippled)some kde code:
-I can't find the keybindings (like destop switching, log off, etc. ) in kcontrol. Is this a 3.1 thing?
-Can't view file type groups in konquerer
-Choosing configure panel after rightclicking on the panel also doesn't work.
-Sometimes a kdeinit process goes to 80 to 100 % cpu usage
-You can't adjust the format of the clock 24/pm
-Can't modify number of virtual desktops.

Has anybody any similar experiences? And should I use the version from sourceforge to solve this?


That happened to me also.
Try to find a package called 'redhat-menus'.
I missed the package the first time because it is in the platfom-independent directory (noarch) "below" all the i18n packages.
I used ftp://download.uk.kde.org/pub/kde/stable…38-1.noarch.rpm

It does not reolve all the problems but at least some of the menus become available. I still can't configure the window behaviour( like focus policy) or preview a mp3 sound file.

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Wednesday, April 16th 2003, 12:06am

I have installed that redhat-menus package but still I have no menu items other than run command, lock and logout.

I can run 'kcontrol' but there are no panels in it - the listview down the left is completely empty!

Any suggestions?

thanks
Mole