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FoxIII

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Sunday, November 23rd 2008, 12:42pm

Plasma....Why?

I like KDE4.1.n except for one major problem. I can´t STAND plasma. I don´t use any of the plasma widgets, I can´t see any point for me to ever use them and it is just a major memory hog (okay, not a problem as I have a power pc, but not the point). I have tried turning it off; kde crashes. I´ve tried uninstalling it; guess the mess that made? My final view? I´m using (shudder) something that I never thought I would be using - gnome.

Am I missing something here? Or can we really not get rid of a feature that we should have control over. This is not windoze, we should have the choice of whether we want a feature or not.

I apologise if this sounds really pithy, but I´m just not feeling to good at this moment in time (nothing to do with kde, btw)

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Friday, November 28th 2008, 10:00pm

Plasma....Why?

I could not agree more. In playing around with Plasma, it seemed like it was an idea borrowed from something I've seen my kids do with their Mac laptops but for which has no appeal to me. It strikes me like an attempt at desktop layering, a main layer that has applications running on it and a sub-layer that has, hopefully, useful, "non-applications" running on it. If that surmise is not the point of plasma I'd love to hear what the real point is since I don't get it yet. Maybe someday it will dawn on me what the buzz is but for now I'd just as soon turn if off, be rid of it and not have to wonder anything about it. That just seems so civil for a polished UI.

-pmr

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Friday, December 5th 2008, 4:57pm

RE: Plasma....Why?

Quoted from "pajatopmr"

I could not agree more. In playing around with Plasma, it seemed like it was an idea borrowed from something I've seen my kids do with their Mac laptops but for which has no appeal to me. It strikes me like an attempt at desktop layering, a main layer that has applications running on it and a sub-layer that has, hopefully, useful, "non-applications" running on it. If that surmise is not the point of plasma I'd love to hear what the real point is since I don't get it yet. Maybe someday it will dawn on me what the buzz is but for now I'd just as soon turn if off, be rid of it and not have to wonder anything about it. That just seems so civil for a polished UI.

-pmr
If there were useful widgets and you had more control, then it could be useful for many people ........... if not myself. Kubuntu runs well on a very old laptop I have, so I can't complain about bloat or resource utilization. However, this part of the interface needs attention.
Dennis -==- Philly

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Sunday, January 4th 2009, 10:29pm

I am one of those who thinks that Plasmoids will be a great idea. I am especially looking forward for widgets written in ruby - i can integrate all my ruby scripts. This outlook makes me happy.

I agree with you that if a user does not want plasma, those plasmoids should not exist anywhere.

To me this more sounds like a few bugs, rather than a problematic issue. Just make sure to report this to devs, so they know about it (i think they already know, but better inform twice, than 0)

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Wednesday, January 21st 2009, 3:28am

Not again!

Plasma is amazing, from notification to applets.

If you don't like any of those, feel free to ignore them (you can disable plasma notifications and use Folder View as your desktop, tadan! you got your old desktop back).

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Monday, February 9th 2009, 2:54pm

I agree with poster, I prefer function over form. If you want form over function just run Vista! The KDE 4 that was released with Kubuntu is just not ready for prime time. It has major functionality missing compared to KDE 3, and on top of that has a boatload of new bugs and more can be found by attempting to turn various features off. I deeply regret upgrading.

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Wednesday, April 22nd 2009, 7:05pm

RE: Not again!

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Plasma is amazing, from notification to applets.

If you don't like any of those, feel free to ignore them (you can disable plasma notifications and use Folder View as your desktop, tadan! you got your old desktop back).

:!: No, you do not get your old desktop back! :!:

(1) In the old desktop, if you pressed a letter key, an icon whose name starts with that letter would highlight, press the letter again and you'd get another icon.

[I don't care whether or not the following are specifically problems with Plasma or KDE4 generally, there are significant usability issues here.]

(2) In the old desktop, you could have different background on each desktop.

(3) In the old desktop you could bind a key to clear the desktop -- you didn't need to reach for an applet to do it.

(4) In KDE3 you could have the taskbar show only the applications present on that desktop. What is the point of the taskbar now?

(5) In KDE3 you could vertically stack small running application icons in the taskbar. Now running application icons look just like application launch icons.

Why isn't there a usability forum?

This post has been edited 3 times, last edit by "pdenno" (Apr 22nd 2009, 8:06pm)

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