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Thursday, September 25th 2008, 1:41pm

I want my desktop back in KDE-4.xxx

Hello,

Since last weekend i used to use Kde 3.5.x without any problem.
Last week I installed Kubuntu Interpid Ibex Alpha6.
I am so dissapointed that i can not use my desktop as a storage area.
For years and years i use my desktop in win and also for last years linux desktop as a quick access storage area.
But with the new kde i can not do this.

What i want is very simple!!
I want my desktop back as storage area for quick access and frequently used items.

Thanks.

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Friday, September 26th 2008, 6:55pm

I've read that eventually, you will be able to disable plasma in KDE4, so maybe that will resolve this for you. BUt please read this, especially the first part:

http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2008/01/talking-bluntly.html

I think you should probably consider sticking with KDE3, as I have. KDE3 is still supported, and will be supported for years. If you're like me, you've felt a pressure to migrate, because KDE4 is all around and everybody keeps talking about how great it is, and you go to the KDE site and you see the scary banner that says "DON'T LOOK BACK" and it may seem like you don't have a choice. But you do have a choice, and you will continue to have a choice.

In my opinion, the KDE team has made a lot of incorrect PR decisions, which is understandable because they're not PR people, and perhaps even seasoned Public Relations pros might have stumbled in such a pioneering situation. The information in the article above should have been a lot more widely distributed. But I now believe that they're handling the development part of the development exactly right.

KDE4 is not my cup of chai at this time, but it's an important long-term project. It's what these great developers need to be doing with their talents. KDE3 on the other hand, is IMO the most advanced example of the Desktop as most of us has come to know it, and Konqueror 3 is just my favorite desktop application ever. It needs to be preserved. And all of this is what is happening. I just wish someone had told me.

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Friday, September 26th 2008, 9:04pm

RE: I want my desktop back in KDE-4.xxx

Hello,

What i want is very simple!!
I want my desktop back as storage area for quick access and frequently used items.

Thanks.


You can use "Desktop Folder" widget as storage area at your desktop.

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Friday, September 26th 2008, 9:58pm

RE: RE: I want my desktop back in KDE-4.xxx

Hello,

What i want is very simple!!
I want my desktop back as storage area for quick access and frequently used items.

Thanks.


You can use "Desktop Folder" widget as storage area at your desktop.


Folderview actually is pretty cool. Most of what I've seen in Plasma widgets is just glorified applets, but folderview really does suggest some intriguing possibilities.

Folderview takes advantage of one of the most powerful preexisting aspects of KDE, something that I only recently discovered. KDE allows you to turn any directory into an effective "Desktop", because Konqueror and Dolphin both support "application links" in any folder. Gnome calls them "Desktop launchers", and I'm pretty sure you can only put them on the Desktop itself, not in the file manager. However, in Konqueror or Dolphin, you can create an icon that will launch an application anywhere in the system you like. And folderview replicates this in the form of a widget/window and when that means in folderview is that you can essentially switch desktops according to different tasks. You can have a media desktop, a writing desktop, and a gaming desktop, with all the appropriate links all arranged nicely when you want them. In short, you can have the best of both worlds: the direct and utter intuitiveness of a point and click without the need for all the distractions that have always made Desktop environments less productive than Window managers for me. You don't need to have all of your links on the Desktop at once, just what you need for what you happen to be doing.

Of course, using Konqueror in KDE3, you can create something similar in a window, it's just less integrated and polished, and it's not exactly eye candy. It's also not locked to the Desktop the way a widget is. Using a combination of Konqueror and a highly configurable window manager such as FLUXBOX :love:, you can have these folder/desktop/menus at your fingetrtips. But I wouldn't have thought of that if I hadn't tried KDE4. I have to say that trying KDE4 gave me new insight on how to get the most of KDE3, which is still my fave.

This post has been edited 3 times, last edit by "blackbelt_jones" (Sep 27th 2008, 1:26am)


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Sunday, September 28th 2008, 12:15pm

Hello All,

Thanks for the replies.
I think that should be an easy way to switch KDE3 look in KDE4.
What
I mean is done in win xp. On win xp there was an option after install
use classic menu and for desktop classic windows style option. (there
was only simple 2 things to do. 1-change menu style 2-change desktop
theme)
KDE developers should add this option to KDE4.
So we can install KDE4 and use our KDE3 looking KDE4's.

So one question:
How to disable plasma??

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Tuesday, September 30th 2008, 9:27am


1-change menu style


A little curiosity could help you:) -- From Start button choose context menu and from there "Switch to Classic Menu Style"

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Tuesday, September 30th 2008, 11:03pm

Bonecollector Thanks for the reply.

I discovered already that I can switch the classic menu style.
But what about my quick launch and desktop style??
I think that we have to work a lot to see our ex desktop that we love.

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Wednesday, October 1st 2008, 2:25pm

I think that we have to work a lot to see our ex desktop that we love.


As from point of view of software developer - I wouldn't hope on that. See, sometimes is maintaining backward-compatibility too difficult, takes too many time and manpower to implement and keep bugfree, that it is easier to let it go.

As Desktop Folder gives almost all functionality to keep data there - files and directories, maybe it is easier to take it as it is. For example.. if you just swiched boat from windows to linux. Or never saw anything else than Kde 4.2. - nothing to miss.

I'm also missing some configuration points, as for example I'm writing here. But as even without "what I'm always used to have", there is more important to me work with browser, and documents, to compile and maintain databases, and I can do all that and that's the most important thing. I'm already getting used to that:)

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Thursday, October 2nd 2008, 6:07pm

Btw, OpenSuse has Kde4 which has enabled desktop where you can have files and directories.

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Tuesday, October 7th 2008, 6:47am

Btw, OpenSuse has Kde4 which has enabled desktop where you can have files and directories.
Does anyone know how to enable desktop in Kubuntu??

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