KDE4 should go in the direction of Mac os X

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Peter123

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Posts: 2

Monday, November 13th 2006, 12:37pm

KDE4 should go in the direction of Mac os X

I think KDE 4 should take some ideas from Mac os X. Why?

*Well, I think the current KDE style, and both plasma and doxygen icons have already more common with Mac os X than with Windows.
*Many people would like to use Mac os with it's look&feel but it can't be installed on normal PC.

1. KDE should decide what applications to include. Not all are needed. For example if I wan't to watch a movie I open KDE multimedia menu and I see about 10 options. Let's look at other GUIIs: Windows has one Windows Media Player; Mac has one QuickTime. That is all. There should be less applications but each more powerful.

2. Many people seem to be quite unhappy with KDE 'start' button or with the whole panel. The best sollution is to make as the default interface the mac-like upper-screen menu-bar which changes depending on which window is choosed (option already available in current KDE) and put the KDE start menu in place of an apple logo.

3. change the panel to the Mac-os-X-like dock.

4. Do something that has already mac and what Microsoft is planning to do in Vista: Integrate the window title bar, frame and toolbar with rest of the window. (See any Mac os X Finder screenshot)
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Sorry for errors: I am not an english native speaker

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Peter123

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Posts: 2

Monday, November 13th 2006, 12:40pm

5. Windows minimize, maximize and close buttons are to much Windows-Like! This must be changed!

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Tortanick

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Posts: 7

Monday, November 13th 2006, 6:31pm

Um, is this thead a joke? its the sillyiest thing I've heard all day. the fundimental idea of turning KDE into OSX is just daft, KDE is a *NIX GUI, its users want diffrent things to Apple users. as for you're sepesific requests, there either irrelivent or allready done.

1) App choice is a disto maker's decission, not KDE. And its better to have lots of apps to do the same job anyway, the alternative is having one app trying to satsify everybody and becomeing a hidous bloated mess!

2) KDE can allready do OSX style menu bar, so why are you asking for a change? Just set it that way on you're computer.

3) KDE allready has a dock. Right click you're panell and and add a new panel. Drag it to the side of the screen and drag you're applications and files to dock them.

4) not sure what you mean here.

5) why? thats all I'll say, why?

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Imagine

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Posts: 4

Location: Quebec

Occupation: Student

Tuesday, November 14th 2006, 4:09pm

RE: KDE4 should go in the direction of Mac os X

I guess you are right actually, but I think KDE needs to be more than only a copy of OS X.

It needs to take advantage of both the upcoming Windows Vista and the upcoming OS X 10.5. Why? Because KDE, like any other OS/Window manager, try to get the most userbase they can through their vision of what an OS is.

But sometimes, other OS has good features that wouldn't hurt to implement within KDE. Vista has some very nice features that could benefit KDE if they would have it. The same thing about OS X.

I think it's time to be open minded toward OS X and Windows cuz they are in some ways KDE'
s competitor.

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WorkingOnWise

Beginner

Posts: 5

Wednesday, January 10th 2007, 8:22pm

Change... for what purpose, and to what

Peter wrote that the min/max/restore must change. It is very Windows-like. Just because it is as such, why must it change? It is an efficient way to handle a windows, as is scrolling it up. Change for the sake of being different is often foolishness. Should we all wear shorts cuz Mr. Gates wears pants? Or not put Linux on a machine built for Windows?
The attitude that Windows is evil, and all things like it must change it a harmful notion to Linux and the Open Source movement. Windows has many great features. Some original, many not. I don't care what OS I run personally, as long as at the end of the day, it has helped me and not hindered me. I am a Linux user because of that fact alone. If Windows were as fast, stable and secure as Linux is, I'd gladly pour over the $1000 in software that Redmond makes for what I do. It isn't, so I don't.

It's about productivity and fulfillment. Redmond has forgotten that. Now they're really pretty...and really bloated.... and really cumbersome.... and too un-productive user friendly.

If they ever get their act together, I'll loan them a few gigs on my hard drive to try them out again.

Keith

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Rinse

Professional

Posts: 797

Wednesday, January 10th 2007, 9:46pm

The topic is a bit old

I think KDE should follow it's own direction, not trying to mimic the look and feel of windows or macos.

It's not a problem to borrow good ideas from windows, macos, gnome, syllable or whatever other GUI out there.
But if KDE tries to clone another interface like macOS, it will turn in to a cheap rippoff of that interface.

Help mee om KDE 3.5.5 in het Nederlands te vertalen

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WorkingOnWise

Beginner

Posts: 5

Wednesday, January 10th 2007, 10:35pm

Well Said

Well Said Rinse.

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