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allelopath

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Tuesday, November 29th 2005, 5:22pm

downloading 3.5 binary

I want to download KDE 3.5 binary for Suse 9.2

There are mirrors here:
http://download.kde.org/download.php?url…/SuSE/ix86/9.2/

Clicking on any one of the mirrors gives a list of 70 or so rpms.
In order to install KDE3.5, must I download each one these?
Surely, this cannot be correct.

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Tuesday, November 29th 2005, 6:21pm

RE: downloading 3.5 binary

It can be somewhat correct.

Depending on your needs, you´ll need to donwload a lot of packages.

Locales are not all obligatory. Some items ara also optional, but if you have one of it installed, dependancies may lead to dozens of updates to run (not only the ones listed!).

You may start by downloading the basic packages (kdebase, kdelibs, arts, qt, depending on the version you have) and watching to the dependancies it complains for upgrading.

I don´t know much about Suse, but is there no apt-like tool? That could ease your life.

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Thursday, December 1st 2005, 10:04pm

RE: downloading 3.5 binary

i have apt-get installed, but i've never used it.
judging from the context of your reply, i assume it can determine dependencies.
i don't think apt-get can be used to get rpms. only src or deb files.

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Thursday, December 1st 2005, 11:23pm

RE: downloading 3.5 binary

I'm not quite sure of what i am saying, so I will antecipatedly apologize for any insane thing.

It's been a very long since my last experience with Conectiva Linux, that was armed with Synaptic
(www.howtoforge.com/apt_for_rpm)
In some distant plays with Redhat, I remember to have installed apt, also.
There is, undoubtly apt4rpm. I heard about "Yum", but I don't know what is it.

If you have apt in your Suse, an rpm based distro, it must know how to talk to your rpm database.

The challenge now is to find the correct configuration to get the needed packages from the right place.
Here I will be of no much help, since my lazyness makes me to live with my Mandriva / urpmi (argh) and I am not used to apt.

But even by a manual upgrade, you can still try downloading the base packages (as I said before) and listen carefully to the complains. If you're a bit lucky, it will work with no much effort.

The dependancies are the hell. God bless the man who dealed apt-like behaviour (and that the devil take the one that made rpm so loose)!

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Friday, December 2nd 2005, 12:37am

RE: downloading 3.5 binary

progress...i guess rpms can be obtained with apt-get
i added this to source.list
rpm http://kde.mirrors.hoobly.com/stable/3.5/SuSE/ix86/9.2/ SuSE/9.2-i386 kdebase3


then i do:
# apt-get update
Ign http://kde.mirrors.hoobly.com SuSE/9.2-i386 release
Get:1 ftp://ftp.gwdg.de SuSE/9.1-i386 release [11.8kB]
Fetched 11.8kB in 3s (3614B/s)
Err http://kde.mirrors.hoobly.com SuSE/9.2-i386/kdebase3 pkglist
404 Not Found
Ign http://kde.mirrors.hoobly.com SuSE/9.2-i386/kdebase3 release
Hit ftp://ftp.gwdg.de SuSE/9.1-i386/usr-local-bin pkglist
Hit ftp://ftp.gwdg.de SuSE/9.1-i386/usr-local-bin release
Failed to fetch http://kde.mirrors.hoobly.com/stable/3.5…kglist.kdebase3 404 Not Found
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.

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so it can't find a pkglist for kdebase3.
i guess that's bad

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Friday, December 2nd 2005, 1:16am

RE: downloading 3.5 binary

It would be nice if it was that simple.

I guess apt hopes to see a file names "pkglist", just listing the contents of its rpms. this must be in the same directory of your new install location (I think it is the same as "hdlist" in my Mandriva).
This file must exist in an apt-ready locations, and kde mirrors seem not to be among them.


I suggest you, again, trying to download the main packages and manually installing it.
If it gives you lots of dependancy errors, try (to find) the easy way, again.

After all, if your disk space and network bandwidth is not a serious concern, go downloading the remaining packages while you try to install the first ones. Just priorize kdebase, kdelibs, arts, qt, and so on till the last file. If everithing work fine, just stop.
If you plan no developing, avoid devel packages. If you want no games ou toys or pim...