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Wednesday, June 16th 2004, 11:24am

KDevelop (Gideon) vs. KDEStudio?

Hi All,

All though I am programming QT/KDE for about 3 years now, I only now heard about KDE Studio.
I was wandering if any of you here have used both KDevelop and KDE Studio and could share pros and cons.
I am going to try KDE Studio but a word from experienced people is always an asset.

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Dani.

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Wednesday, June 16th 2004, 3:20pm

I used KDEStudio in the KDE 2.x aera and that time it was much better, more finished than KDevelop. You can easily have subprojects and all open in the same workspace. The con is that it costs some money.
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Wednesday, June 16th 2004, 5:03pm

Thanks for the input.
And if you compare the KDE Studio (I understnad that it was the old version but still) to Gideon ?
It is true that KDE Studio consts, but about 50$ for the profetional version is not that bad, if you are REALLY working with it - and if it really is good.
How far would you say it is from MSVS?
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Wednesday, June 16th 2004, 5:14pm

It is too long ago that I used it. But I have no high opinion about Gideon. KDEStudio was very complete, everything worked, no ghostbuttons etc. Due the plugininterface of Gideon, Gideon lacks on useablity in my opinion.
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Thursday, June 17th 2004, 10:48am

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Originally posted by axeljaeger
It is too long ago that I used it. But I have no high opinion about Gideon. KDEStudio was very complete, everything worked, no ghostbuttons etc. Due the plugininterface of Gideon, Gideon lacks on useablity in my opinion.


Same here.

I only develop with VC6++ on windows and just compile the finished software on linux.
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Thursday, June 17th 2004, 5:05pm

I am not that happy with Gideon as well - thats why I started looking for other options.
I am not an emacs type of editor fan, when working with C++, I like to see my class view, methods etc...
I know that there is nothing yet (YET!) quite like MSVC under linux, but personaly, I dont need that much.
Actually my I prefer KDevelop 2.1.5 much better on Gideon, all though it lacks on fetures compared to Gideon.
I find Gideon look and feel not convinent, and it makes me click too much, for every thing I want I need to cilck and the views are obscuring each other... its a matter of preference...
But I am trying to give up on windows all togeather, so MSVS is not really an option - for that, I preffer KDevelop 2.1.5 but staying in Linux. but if I can find better then KDevelop - why not? ;-)

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Wednesday, July 7th 2004, 9:54pm

I can't help but suspect that people referring to KDevelop3 as "Gideon" hasn't tried it since it was named like that (which btw, was 10 months and several hundred solved bug reports ago).

Sure, KDevelop3 still has a way to go, but it is being actively developed and the developers a typically receptive. Constructive feedback, bug reports and patches help. What we really need is more developers (but what project doesn't?)

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Monday, July 12th 2004, 10:00am

Well, I actually DO use KDevelop3.
I started using it when it came out as Gideon, and thats the way I know it, all though I am running the latest version supplied by SuSE (i think its 3.0.5).

From your "personal" aproach to my post, I am guessing you are taking part in the KDevelop project.
The critic I have on KDevelop is not so much technical, its more on the usability side.
I don't like the fact I need to click for EVERY thing I want to see, since the windows occlude/clip one another.
And I like to work in a tabbed inviornment (so the other displays are not an option for me).
In that respect KDevelop 2.X was much better - in MY view.
Also the make manger is not convinient in my view.
But these are personal taste and liking - I don't think there is sense to make "constructive feedback" about these personal views.

Btw, how many active developers are working on the project?
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Monday, July 12th 2004, 10:41am

Hi,

when I develop KDE/Qt applications I use KDevelop3 and the Designer. The subclass function in KDevelop3 is really cool. I have searched for it really long... now I have it :)

For "noamal" STL C++ apps I use still Kate.

No VIM or Emacs around here :)

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Tuesday, July 13th 2004, 2:35pm

You could always try Anjuta if you don't like Kdevelop.
I've been using Kwrite recently, as I haven't had any major projects to work on. When I big projects arise they're normally GUI related anyway, so I just use Qt.

I like Kdevelop, even though I don't use it to much, and I haven't experienced some of the errors i've heard people encounter with it.

Not exactly related to this post, but where should I go to see if there are any small KDE applications that are in need of developers?
I want to give KDE development a try, and see if i'm up to it.

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Paul

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Thursday, July 15th 2004, 12:23pm

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but where should I go to see if there are any small KDE applications that are in need of developers?


www.kde.org? ;-)
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Sunday, October 10th 2004, 6:44pm

How about Sourceforge.net? Btw, I have never been part of a development team...how difficult is it to join an existing one ( on Sourceforge ) ?
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Sunday, October 10th 2004, 9:41pm

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Originally posted by fortezza
How about Sourceforge.net? Btw, I have never been part of a development team...how difficult is it to join an existing one ( on Sourceforge ) ?


Recently I've started coding on KMess, a project I like a lot. It's also the first project I'm activily contributing to. Here is my view of things regarding "joining a team".

- first you discover a project you like, but also want to see improve. I mean literally discover, because it just depends on your interests.
- some day you might find yourself posting suggestions to their forums, or mailing lists.
- some day you ask the author whether you may try to implement a certain feature (perhaps because it was something you missed, or someone else things so)
- you download the cvs code (likely read-only access), and start coding.
- create a patch from your tree, and e-mail the author with your patch file.
- you might get full access to cvs, and continue to involve in the project.
- you also register yourself with the 'devel' mailing list, so you can discuss all development my email.

That's all ;)
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Thursday, October 14th 2004, 12:05pm

I checked out the site..and found that Kde studio is free.

how come...many of you say that you have to pay..
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Thursday, October 14th 2004, 12:09pm

Ohh...i am sorry..

I guess...there are two versions...one free..the other Professional(called Gold) paid.
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Sunday, October 24th 2004, 2:04am

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Originally posted by blu fire
Not exactly related to this post, but where should I go to see if there are any small KDE applications that are in need of developers?
I want to give KDE development a try, and see if i'm up to it.

- Take a look at http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Developer+FAQ and http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Developers+Wanted
- You could also ask on the mailings lists (see http://www.kde.org/mailinglists/), stating your background and interests.

Most requests for developers I've seen were for KOffice (well, that's not exactly a small application, but I'm sure there are also smaller tasks to do that don't require knowledge of the complete codebase...).