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Saturday, October 7th 2006, 6:41am

new to email - lost

Am used to using the email provided by Yahoo. Would like to learn about email but this is not going well. Google and Kmail docs return this:

Setting up Network Connections

The settings under ‘Network’ (in the ‘Configure KMail’ menu) instruct KMail how to receive and send e-mail. There are two tabs, one each for sending and for receiving mail. Many of these settings vary depending on the system and network where your mail server is located. If you are not sure about the settings or which items to select, consult your Internet service provider or system administrator.


ISP does not tech support linux and I am the sys admin. so no help here.

Sending

Create outgoing mail boxes under the ‘Send’ tab. ‘Add’ gives the choice of either SMTP or sendmail. For most purposes, select SMTP here. After making this selection, a window appears in which to enter SMTP server data, such as ‘Name’, ‘Server’, and, if needed, the required authorization. A preprocessing command to run before sending each message can be entered in the corresponding field.


Selected SMTP but what server? where? Is my PC the server or is it my ISP, and What name goes in the 'name and server boxes?

Security settings are under the ‘Security’ tab. Specify your preferred encryption method here. If uncertain about which one to choose, click ‘Test server capacity’. The respective settings are then tested and applied. If necessary, consult your system administrator.
Receiving


clicked "test server" returned with "could not connect to server". Again, I have no sys admin.

Make settings for receiving e-mail under the ‘Receiving’ tab. Use ‘Add’ to create a new account. Choose between different methods for fetching mail, such as local (Mbox or Maildir format), POP3, or IMAP. Usually POP3 is suitable. After making your selection, a window appears in which to enter the POP3 server data. Enter the name of the server in the field at the top. In the other fields, enter the values provided by your Internet service provider or your system administrator. The fields ‘User’, ‘Server’, and ‘Password’ are required.

Where do I get the POP3 server data? ISP no help. Myself no help.

Sorry, but none of this is intuitive for me and this documentation is horrible for newbs. I have read some threads here and it appears that even those who claim to be newbs are throwing around networking terms like IMAP, POP, SMTP, transport name, host , recieve port, etc. They have at least had email working and are trying to do something exotic.

I have read Kmail docs and several howtos but no luck.

Any help configuring the network tab of Kmail would be appreciated.

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Saturday, October 7th 2006, 9:32am

RE: new to email - lost

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Selected SMTP but what server? where? Is my PC the server or is it my ISP, and What name goes in the 'name and server boxes?


Could be both, but the most common situation for home users is that the SMTP server is at the ISP.

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Where do I get the POP3 server data? ISP no help. Myself no help.


Sorry, I can't help you on that.either. The ISP must have some data about the POP server. That data is not specific for Windows/Mac, you can use it on any operating system you like. You could even follow some Outlook Express tutorial to see what values they fill in for their servers.
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Sunday, October 8th 2006, 3:45pm

RE: new to email - lost

Did I get that correctly that you are using Yahoo as your email provider? If you are using the US-based yahoo.com, Yahoo does not allow for your emails to be collected by an email client like KMail. See here. If you're using some local version, check your Help within Yahoo. I know for sure that the German Yahoo (yahoo.de) does allow POP access, so some others might as well.
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