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Wednesday, May 28th 2003, 7:35pm

KDE and the OSX menu bar

Before we start let me say that I am glad that ppl are choosing to use KDE and get the opportunity to configure KDE to do whatever they wish, but...

Is anyone else sick and tired of the OSX menu bar? Anyone tired of the "dude I love that transparent OSX bar thing that resizes after you go over the icons... KDE 3.2 need to have that." moronic junior-high filth that spouts forth from those with 0 understanding of system usability.

There is lots of work going to-wards getting a similarly functioning bar for KDE using the SuperKaramba interface. And no offense to anyone who is using it but the OSX menu bar has to be the least functional, least intuitive, and most resource intensive piece of c**p I have ever seen.

SuperKaramba itself is very nice; embedding rss feeds, system management tools, and resource indicators directly into the desktop lend to all kinds of wonderfully useful options.

Anytime I hear about how "much more functional" the OSX desktop is, I immediately know that the person talking lacks any real understanding of the functionality of KDE or the LACK thereof in OSX. OSX is useful because of the proprietary applications it runs... not because of the horrendously useless OSX interface. So why (if *nix has such a bad reputation for being less-than-fully-functional within the gui) are we working against what makes KDE so useful. Kicker is 100x more functional, useful, consistent, and even flexible than the OSX bar. Hell, at least slicker contains functionality improvements... OSX bar in Karamba does not. It is all form and NO substance.

Yes I know that its a "my cool OSX bar" thing, and that ppl are going to work on what they are interested in. And they have the right in the OS community to do so. If you want to use it.. then fine, use it. Just don't keep asking to replace kicker with that worthless piece of s**t.
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Wednesday, May 28th 2003, 9:48pm

Re: KDE and the OSX menu bar

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Yes I know that its a "my cool OSX bar" thing, and that ppl are going to work on what they are interested in. And they have the right in the OS community to do so. If you want to use it.. then fine, use it. Just don't keep asking to replace kicker with that worthless piece of s**t.


I am pretty sure kicker will not be removed in any case during the KDE3.x series.

And I guess it will remain in KDE4 as well.

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Thursday, May 29th 2003, 2:08am

although i am a personal lover of the kicker myself, the creation of superkaramba as a dektop/kicker/monitor alternative which is embedded into the desktop is a great achievement. I feel that this gives those people who do not like the kicker an option to use what they like and how they like, in the case of both karamba and the slicker.

Personally i find slicker to be much more resource heavy than superkaramba, and i do not know why.

Let people have their opinions and their likes/dislikes, and you can continue to have yours. The moment we lose being able to choose what we want to run and how, we start losing the greatness of the open source system.