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Sunday, October 3rd 2004, 2:28pm

Konstruct: what happens if it fail to build?

Hello,

Since KDE 3.3.1 will be out very soon, I plan to migrate to 3.3 now.
And I want to use Konstruct.
Since I haven't used it yet (and used buggy rpms) before, I have some questions:

1. How many time it take ? I have a P4 1.6 GHz.
2. Can I work while it compile/install? ie. I can stay on my KDE and don't need to restart computer to text mode only.
3. Is it installing all at the end or all packages one by one just after theire compilation?
4. And what happens if it doesn't work at middle of the install and then abord the process? Corrupted KDE?

Note: I want to override my old KDE 3.2.0 installation (not enough place on harddrive for two installations).
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Sunday, October 3rd 2004, 4:16pm

Re: Konstruct: what happens if it fail to build?

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1. How many time it take ? I have a P4 1.6 GHz.

Can't say exactly but expect it to take a couple of hours.

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2. Can I work while it compile/install? ie. I can stay on my KDE and don't need to restart computer to text mode only.

You can keep using you KDE but some things may stop working when things start to get installed. If you have all applications you need open you may not notice it. But if you are lauching and killing applications or running commands then you may notice some problems. At least that is my experience.

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3. Is it installing all at the end or all packages one by one just after theire compilation?

I'm not sure but I think that it compiles and installs one by one: kdebase, kdenetwork, kdepim, etc

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4. And what happens if it doesn't work at middle of the install and then abord the process? Corrupted KDE?

Well, I think thats why Konstructs installs KDE in the home dir by default. To avoid such things. But since you want't to override the old KDE then I recommend reading the docs before starting. Check that you have everything that is needed. If it fails anyway...well, fix the problem and restart the process :-) I don't think that you will ever need to be at the command line. If I'm not mistaken the first thing that is installed is kdebase. That is the base KDE desktop: konqueror and not much more. At least you will have that working.

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Note: I want to override my old KDE 3.2.0 installation (not enough place on harddrive for two installations).

Read the README files that come with construct. They say how to choose the place were the compiled KDE will be intalled among other things.

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Sunday, October 3rd 2004, 5:04pm

Re: Konstruct: what happens if it fail to build?

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Can't say exactly but expect it to take a couple of hours.

Not days? Cool. Hum... I have G++ 3.3. It is very slow on compiling my programs. Don't know if G++ 3.4 is a bit faster...

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But since you want't to override the old KDE then I recommend reading the docs before starting.

Yes, of course. This post was just to get experiences and some responses from some fears :-)

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Check that you have everything that is needed.

I suppose I have all, since KDE 3.2 is working very well.
Is Konstruct build newer QT and aRts? I expect that. Don't know how to compile QT myself (it, I can learn).

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If I'm not mistaken the first thing that is installed is kdebase.

KDE libs first, you mean?

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Sunday, October 3rd 2004, 7:04pm

I used Konstruct to test KDE 3.2. I used a PII 300Mhz and it took a day. I don't know relative compile speeds between G++ versions but if it was an huge difference I got concerned about that particular version.

If you choose one of the meta packages from Konstruct it installs everything you need including qt with patches and so.

You're right, kdelibs go first but I don't expect kdebase to fail if kdelibs install properly. Maybe thats my problem ;-).

Well, as I sayed, I installed KDE 3.2. I had KDE 3.1.4 and everything installed perfectly (qt 3.2 included). Actually I had to stop the process because I had to shutdown the computer but I had already installed a few of packages base, network, utils, etc. Nevertheless as it was a beta (3.1.93 or so) I had it installed in my home directory.

Wish you good luck and to close just wanted to say that I'm using Gentoo were "everything" is compiled from source so I'm not afraid of compiling things :-)