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Sunday, June 1st 2003, 9:57am

safe rpm building of kde without overwriting other gui´s

Ok, yesterday I ran into a big problem.
I had to install arts and kdelibs to compile kdebase, but by doing so, tthe rpm packages of course already set the PATH and KDEDIRS and so on, that at one point when I tried to log off, mandrake got stuck.
Reset was my only option, by wich I had a lot of harddisk hassle to get back, but when I came at the login screen, I noticed my wallpaper as removed, i had a list of all running processes instead of the users, I strangely had the option to log in as either a user or process, but even if I tried to log in properly as root or user, he did not accept the password.
When rebooting in failsafe, I saw that all profiles were still there, but for some reason I could no longer boot to gnome (wich was my temporary home to compile kde in)
So, how do I take my precautions to proceed more safely?

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Sunday, June 1st 2003, 1:15pm

Hi,
do you mean something like that: http://developer.kde.org/build/build2ver.html

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Sunday, June 1st 2003, 2:00pm

not really, i did this without any version of kde installed.
I had another gui (gnome) installed so no kde conflicts would happen. (like mentioned on the site)
but after arts and kdelibs were installed, lets just say he couldnt find anything anymore :(

and now after a reinstallation (for the 6th time or so)
I tried to use those rpms from that german ftp i posted in that other topic, seems like there is sometyhing wrong with them, they require files that are either already installed or that i dont have.
(why wont it just work? for more then a month now i've been trying to set up a decent working mandrake with the latest kde so i could finally get that nice kdevelop3alpha4 :( )

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Sunday, June 1st 2003, 3:40pm

Hmm, if you have some linux knowledge you should try gentoo. Installing KDE is nothing more than an emerge kde.

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Sunday, June 1st 2003, 4:51pm

I virtually would love to, but i fear my adsl driver is not supported there :(
http://www.flashtux.org
I use the eciadsl driver and it works on most rpm based systems and debian or slackware, but i dont think it will work on gentoo.
And yes, i must change definitly, because i just ruined everything again in under an hour.
Now my c compiler thinks I'm using mandrake cooker and had some severe bugs already :(

If however there would be a suitable driver to work in gentoo for an eicon diva adsl usb wan modem then that would be great.


edit: fool that i am :p
just read gentoo is supported, will dl it as soon as I get my hands on some cd's :)

I do need a nice tutorial to get to know the principle of portage because I am too familiar now with packages.

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Sunday, June 1st 2003, 5:03pm

You need docs? I think no distri offers more docs on here site than gentoo: http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/docs.xml
By the way: You can install gentoo in a chroot environment. So you don't have to exit your mdk.
Also there are the gentoo forums: http://forums.gentoo.org

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Sunday, June 1st 2003, 5:07pm

thnx!
I just hope i wont screw up the install, i heard this is one of the most hardocre linux distro's....

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Sunday, June 1st 2003, 5:11pm

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i heard this is one of the most hardocre linux distro's

Hmm no I don't think so. If you can manage the installation (just go step by step through the installation doc) then you have a system with the best package management system ever: portage
Update the system libraries: emerge -u system.
Update al programs: emerge -u --deep world
Install mozilla and all depencies: emerge mozilla
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Sunday, June 1st 2003, 10:17pm

After reasonable consideration I have decided to stay with mdk due to it's easy partitioning and quick installs (I have a neck to ruin an OS ;) )
(and honestly I dont feel like installing yet another distro)

but I do have one side question:

when I do an rpm -ba <specfile>
the configure of the source tarball uses this parameter:
--with-distribution=i586 - Mandrake Linux Cooker

while I simply installed the stable 9.1 :?

or is it just using that param to indicate that building rpm's is part of the cooker distro?
this is quite puzzling to me....